Sexless marriage, infidelity, and premature ejaculation
Thank you to whoever reads to the end, because this started short and ended up being incredibly long.
I am 35 years old, married for 7 years (we have been together for 10), and have suffered from severe PE since I was young (e.g., when I was really young I would ejaculate even before penetration and now it takes seconds). Until I met my wife, it caused relationships to end as soon as they got to the point of physical intimacy. I ended them because I was scared to communicate about the issue, fearing ridicule. I feared my partner wouldn't care nor want to help.
From the moment I met her, she demonstrated a very low sex drive and a disinterest in sex. I recall—at the time it was a long distance relationship—traveling across country to see her on many occasions, having a great evening, and yearning to end the night with an intimate moment, only find a woman who successfully played possum. Oddly, my PE, lifelong fear of sex, and her disinterest matched well in the early days. Sex was infrequent but that meant I had few embarrassing moments. It is hard to explain but I wanted sex but when it occurred, it ended horribly for me, which led me to tell myself "boy that wasn't fun, it was embarrassing, and why did I even want to do that."
My sexual problems led to depression, which led me to SSRI’s that partially cured the PE which cured the depression, at least in part. (I can’t stand those drugs because of the side effects.) During those times when I was more capable in bed, sex was more frequent both because I had courage to initiate it and my wife enjoyed it more.
Her excuse back then was that I didn’t connect with her on an emotional level (she has said I am as emotional with her as a robot). That I didn’t do things to make the relationship better. For me at least, it was and is challenging to connect to someone emotionally when you are prohibited from doing so physically.
Even if we weren’t going to have a mutually satisfying sex life, I still wanted my PE to end. I can’t accurately describe the negative ways it has affected me, how it makes me feel inferior, and so many other things. It has haunted me on a daily and hourly basis for two decades. I have pleaded for nearly a decade with my wife to help me overcome PE. I have read every book, tried kegal exercises, the stop/start technique while masturbating, vitamins, and everything else, to no avail. I told her that even if sex was mechanical, it needed to be frequent in the short term and that we needed to mutually implement the strategies developed by Masters and Johnson. I told her once we determined whether the problem could be fixed, we could go back to sex on her terms. (Those terms, obviously, are non-negotiable.) Five years ago she told me she would not help and that I “should figure it out for myself.” That is a real quote.
We have a 2 and 4 year old. Pre-kids, we would have sex maybe 4 to 14 times a year. Many of those were when she was intoxicated and lost her inhibitions or in the shower, which was uncomfortable to me (kind of the kick the leg up in the shower, penetrate, and get it over with love making). Through a decade and from the outset, she has never routinely enjoyed nor offered physical intimate things like kissing or moving our clothed bodies against one another in bed. The only thing she allowed—pre-kids—was to masturbate me while we were in the shower. That happened once a month. (I would ask for it often, but stopped asking as much because the rejection was certain.)
Early in the relationship, I often asked for sex but was routinely turned down, most often in a fairly rude way, which made me more insecure and fearful of asking. I remember at one point over a span of a few months, she turned me down 15 times in a row. I only offered when it was strategically wise -- i.e., she was in a good mood, there was nothing practical that we needed to accomplish. Starting at some point a long time ago, I would have serious anxiety about asking her for an intimate moment because I knew I would be rejected in a rude way. It made me virtually give up.
What does not help is that I made a bad mistake 3 years ago and had a non-intercourse contact with a stripper while incredibly intoxicated. Frankly, I had virtually never frequented those sorts of places. The one and only 5 minute lapse in judgment in a decade with my wife. My wife was pregnant at the time. Afterwards, I was mortified with what I did, scared of losing her, I hated myself for what I did (particularly considering she was pregnant), and I was terrified I contracted some disease. I couldn’t sleep and it dominated my thoughts. I got tested and I was fine. I paid for the test through my bank account and my wife saw the charge, confronted me, and I confessed, although I tried to make something up when she initially did.
Since that time, sex has been virtually non-existent. There have been a few times that we made love when we were both intoxicated (most recently, when we were on a weekend trip in New Orleans). I know we made love twice when we were not intoxicated since I made the mistage. Things like kissing, cuddling, or just rolling around in bed with our clothes on have been non-existent.
Not surprisingly, she now uses my mistake as an excuse for everything. It is her trump card. She plays it and I shut up. From her perspective, I have “done nothing to make the marriage better.” Sex is always out of the question because I have done nothing etc. I am a good father (she agrees) and I try in our marriage but it is hard to be in a partnership when one partner's door is always closed. I am far from perfect. But she has a trump card. For me, it was hard through the first 6 or 7 years to build a relationship without physical intimacy and it is still hard.
I am lost, sad, still love my wife, and I absolutely adore and live for my children. I want things to work out but things seem hopeless. I am sure you will say counseling is the next step but we tried that at one point in the marriage and the results were horrible. Maybe I need to see someone again. She is a very stubborn and controlling person and cannot hear someone else’s point of view. Counseling made things worse. I can no longer talk to her (it never really was easy) because while she shows no emotion in our marriage, she only knows how to very act emotionally (kind of like having a tantrum) when I try to communicate about anything. It makes me want to be a robot.
It was therapeutic to write this. If you read this far, thank you. I’d like to hear your point of view.

I'm really sorry. I'm sad for you that she won't help you work through the PE. I am not at all an expert so I have no clue what else to day other than I'm really sorry.
I do have a question....what was the non-intercourse contact? I'm a little confused on that front. Also, has she ever talked to her Gyn about the low desire? Are you two compatible other than sexually? How is her interaction with the children? Engaged or withdrawn?
Hey--thanks for sharing so much. We at Good in Bed are so happy to be able to offer a forum in which folks can talk and discuss without fear of embarrassment.
So--it sounds like there are a lot of different facets to your experience right now. You've got some PE questions, you've got a wife who is upset, who is also not interested in sex (at all, it seems--not just with you), and you're frustrated. You've tried counseling (which is SO WONDERFUL for you to have tried--so many people are opposed to even trying, so good for you. You may want to try seeing an individual therapist rather than just tackling couple's therapy) to no avail.
I'm going to continue on in another entry--
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The thing that is troubling about this situation is that your wife is not, & seems to have never been, interested in sex. That, accompanied with your fear of embarrassing yourself, have made for the perfect storm: both of you are afraid of having sex, so you just don't do it. Here's the thing: you both deserve fulfilling sex lives. There are a lot of men out there with PE, and every one of them deserves to have their questions answered, their fears abated, & their sexuality validated.
The good news: you're working on figuring things out; you're on the right track. The bad news: it's going to take some work; your wife may not just magically turn into a supportive partner. But: you deserve to be happy and healthy. And that's that.
To Shelley, I tried to convey the point in a more ambiguous way that saying fellatio. I would have been confused too.
I have asked her twice to have a specialist evaluate her. My suspicion was and is that she has hypoactive sexual desire disorder. She was as rude with her response as she is when she rejects me. She referenced an article in a magazine that allegedly said that most woman are not interested in sex.
We are compatible outside of the bedroom but that is mostly because we both strive to be great parents. She is good to our kids and she's a good mom, albeit she is controlling. The prob is that children see everything, including the discord between their parents.
What is most frustrating is that PE is potentially solveable.
It appears to me a significant issue with your wife is her need for control. You mention this with respect to your non-sex life together however I suspect it carries over to her sex life as well.
I'm wondering if her reticience regarding sex has to do with her being afraid of losing control. Hence, the few times she does show interest is when her inhibitions are lowered due to being intoxicated.
Obviously this is something that has existed for a long time and will not be changed overnight, if at all. I would suggest you talk with her about what you have stated here. Let her know how it makes you feel and ask if she's prepared to help you with it. If not, you have a decision to make.
Best of luck,
Hi there. I want to start by saying I am not a professional of any sort, just here looking for some answers too. But I would like to share my thoughts. You are doing the right thing by owning up to your mistake and trying to get some counseling. My thought is that you should keep trying. Maybe your wife is not comfortable with the current counseling. Maybe you should try a new counselor or group couples therapy. Try to get your wife to pick someone to see so she can feel it is not biased at all.
The other point that no one is saying is that your relationship seems on the outs from the start. You need to evaluate where you are and decide if you want to keep going. Honestly I can tell you that a marriage without any intimacy CAN affect your children. If you both can not get along and can not resolve issues, then maybe it is not going to get better and in that case it may be better for you both to move on to be happy. (cont'd)
I think Kids seem to detect the tensions and lack of closeness and it may be better for the kids if you move on. I know this may not be what you want to hear, but I had to reach a point where I told my wife that the lack of happiness in the marriage had to end for the kids well being. We are still in counseling and things are turning so I am blessed for that.
Also I would offer some self help for you. Try the Love Dare or a book called 5 Love Languages. Be the leader and set the example. Take some time and really work on building a relationship and see if the sex comes later. Basically work on the Agape love and not the physical so much.
Good luck to you my friend!
i'm not an expert but i think her lack of interest in sex is the fact that she have not had an orgasm with you since you started being intimate because of your PE. she is turning you down when you ask for sex because she knows she will not get any satisfaction out of it. asking her to masturbate you in the shower turns her off because it is only you who derives pleasure from it. sex is a two-way street.
you can start with helping her with the house chores, volunteer to do the things that she is the only one doing since you were married. give her a kiss on the nape and embrace her from behind while she is doing the dishes. flirt with her but don't ask her to have sex with you just yet. the extra effort will surely earn you extra points with her.
when the time comes that she agrees to have sex, your main objective should be to please her. forget your own pleasure first. give her oral sex. make her orgasm. PE should not be a problem this time. you have your hands, your tongue, use them.
Excellent response Ardego. Bravo!
After reading your post and the replies, I agree with ardego and flirt with your wife and forget your pleasure and work on pleasuring her, try orally.
Intimacy is an important part of any relationship and if it's not there, regardless of how hard you may be working, if it's not reciprocal than you need to start to think about moving on - even with children. Wouldn't you agree it would a better to see your children surrounded by positive intimacy (flirting, kissing, touching), than very cold un-feeling relationship?
I'm not an expert but having your wife hold your infidelity over you is not good for you or her in the long run. If it's that big of an issue for her, either she deals with it and be done, or you move on and look for a more positive relationship.
Just thoughts.
You'll be fine